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Rocktron Patchmate Loop8 Floor agnoy: it tin't change presets straight!?

  • Thread starter MikeSelmer
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  • #1
Hi all!

I am in serious desperation, and so please, if you lot have this unit or a similar controller, help a Christmas elf with some info.

I just purchased a new Rocktron Patchmate Loop 8 Floor unit, then that I could switch between various pedal configurations with a single pace (with the pedals sitting in the eight loops of the unit). I got the unit of measurement yesterday, and it seems the unit CANNOT change directly between pre-assigned loop configurations! The problem is that the unit's default setting is that information technology is in LOOP MODE, where it works as a normal looper. Unless I'grand mistaken (or cannot apply the unit of measurement correctly), everytime when I desire to utilize a preset (with a preset loop configuration) I demand to separately access PRESET MODE by stepping on a footswitch that says 'preset'. After this I can step on the i-eight footswitches of the unit of measurement and access the preset assigned to that footswitch. What is more, when I have chosen the preset, the unit immediately goes back to loop fashion, and I cannot dial in another preset without stepping on 'preset mode' switch first. This ways TWO footsteps every time I want to modify from a preset to some other (one to admission preset mode and the other to call in a preset)! Can this exist right? Very frustrating and disappointing! Am I doing this right?

I do non want to have to purchase an external controller to change straight between presets! Hvae y'all got whatever ideas on how to work this problem? What am I doing wrong? Or exercise I just have to accept that this unit is non for me? :-(

And finally, why would whatsoever manufacturer want to make a flooring unit of measurement like this? What expert is a floor unit/loop switcher like this? It'southward supposed to assist things...

Thanks,
MIKKO

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Hacksaw
  • #two
Sounds like it is a config on the footswitch you are using. What are y'all controlling the patchmate with?

edit: :headslap I missed the loop "flooring" word. I presumed loop viii rack unit.

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  • #iii
Sounds like it is a config on the footswitch you lot are using. What are you decision-making the patchmate with?

Well, that's the signal exactly - I'm not using whatever other unit to control the Patchmate. I thought I could control it with its ain switches. I thought information technology was Rocktron's point in making a pedalboard version of the patchmate - then y'all could operate everything with your feet on it...

I quess I'll need to see if I can live with always having to press twice when I change between presets within songs...

MIKKO

  • #4
I ordered one besides and noticed that in the manual tho I haven't set information technology up however.
I emailed Rocktron to see if there's a manner to continue it in Preset mode just haven't had a reply nevertheless. It doesn't seem to make sense to take to stride twice to make a modify. I'll allow you know if I go a answer. Mine'south going dorsum if y'all can't.
Cap'nMayhem
  • #5
I was looking at that same unit and read this in the transmission. It didn't look similar you tin modify the default mode. I was planning on getting 2 and setting them up for xvi total presets and was quite bummed to observe out about the 2 button printing consequence. Now information technology looks every bit if I would need a separate controller to practise what I want. That'due south gonna take longer to get the setup I want.
  • #6
I ordered one as well and noticed that in the manual tho I haven't set it up nevertheless.
I emailed Rocktron to see if there'southward a way to keep it in Preset mode but haven't had a reply yet. It doesn't seem to make sense to take to step twice to brand a modify. I'll permit you know if I get a reply. Mine's going dorsum if yous can't.

Well, get ready to send it back. I got a reply from Rocktron to this very question and they confirmed that you ever need to footstep twice to move from a preset to another. And I agree with what y'all said: information technology actually makes no sense to release this unit of measurement if you have to step twice.

I quess the Ultimate Pedalboard v23 that I was planning to design and put together this Christmas will non be so ultimate, later on all. V24 is going to have a Providence PEC-2 or similar to control everything.

BurnoutBright
  • #vii
This is a bummer, I was only researching this unit.
Jimmy_Rage
  • #8
This is really sorry and agonizing. Its virtually equally if Rocktron has conned people into buying their product past not mentioning the fact that you demand to printing two switches to access a single patch explicitly in the descriptions of the product that are available on the internet. Their draconian decision not to provide clear documentation of the product's capabilities on their website or anywhere else seems to give credence to that theory.
What I understood when reading descriptions of this production on ebay seller pages was that it functioned like to the Carl Martin Octaswitch, as in one click to access a patch. And that you only needed to add a midi footswitch if you wanted to access more viii patches. If this is not the case, it'south totally unacceptable and seems like a cheap endeavor to get people to buy 2 products when they thought they only needed to buy 1.
I'grand going to update the pedal switcher shoot-out with this information. Really sorry to hear about these experiences over here, I hope y'all guys effigy out an appropriate course of action.

- Jimmy Rage

  • #9
I think we're on the same page, Mike. What was Rocktron's caption?
  • #10
I think we're on the same folio, Mike. What was Rocktron's caption?

No explanation. Just a verification that 2 steps are needed.

But I need to stress: Rocktron's customer service has been excellent in the past calendar month. I've sent them some eight-10 emails with questions about the Patchmate and they e'er replied within hours (sometimes minutes). However, not in one email did they mention that I need to step twice, which is somewhat odd as there were many topics discussed which shut to the switching.

  • #11
Just idea I'd add together this.
Rocktron is in the process of correcting the issue.

Hither is an e-mail reply from them today:

"I have the first one to operate like this on my desk. They added a preset mode in which you set a fleck in the set up department included on the CONTROLLER page.

Only the relays are nonetheless hard wired to the LED'south and then when you select one of the viii presets the unit will recall the preset only testify any of the loops that are ON inside that preset you must recollect which preset yous had selected.

Cap'nMayhem
  • #12
With only 8 presets attainable without some other controller that shouldn't be too difficult to do. A bit of a pain in the ass but worth putting upwards with if in all other areas it is a skillful product. Of course they should fix that consequence on future models. Thanx for posting that update. a lot of guys wouldn't accept.
  • #13
Annihilation more than on this? I tried emailing Rocktron simply haven't got a response. Retrofittable to before units, perhaps?:dunno
  • #fourteen
I don't see information technology as that big of an issue. Information technology goes to loop mode, so you can switch private pedals in and out on the fly. When you lot are getting ready to demand a preset modify just prime it by striking preset, and then bam, you're back in loop mode with command of individual loops. I run into what you're saying, but knowing that you should have went midi. It'south why I'm gonna go with the rack unit, my old midi footboard, and an Axess CFX-4 to handle amp functions. Plus I'll gain information technology's 2 continuous controller pedals for switching multiple loops in/out within a preset.

If the damn GCP wasn't and so expensive I'd become with the DMC/Voodoo option, just my midi board won't work with the GCX manifestly. :bitch

Cap'nMayhem
  • #xv
I don't see information technology every bit that big of an issue. Information technology goes to loop mode, so you can switch individual pedals in and out on the fly. When you are getting ready to need a preset change just prime it by hitting preset, and then bam, y'all're back in loop way with control of individual loops. I see what you're maxim, merely knowing that you should accept went midi. It'south why I'm gonna go with the rack unit, my old midi footboard, and an Axess CFX-4 to handle amp functions. Plus I'll gain information technology's two continuous controller pedals for switching multiple loops in/out within a preset.

If the damn GCP wasn't then expensive I'd go with the DMC/Voodoo option, but my midi board won't work with the GCX plain. :bitch


I run into what yous're maxim but if you lot happen to sing in the band also, then 2 switches is 1 besides many. I don't want to add a rack crusade I tweak knobs on the fly with my anxiety and space beside my amp and next to the drummer is often limited.
  • #16
Little update on this unit of measurement:
Rocktron does indeed take V2.0 software for these units that allow i step preset switching and it is retrofittable to previous versions. Later some initial frustration in communication with their tech support they put me in bear upon with the engineer (Bob Pascoe) who wrote the update, who walked me thru the update process. Although we had some problems during the process, the engineer's willingness to go above and beyond to solve the issues stood out and Rocktron is backing their product.
LoveRock
  • #17
Exactly how do you apply the update to the unit (i.due east. via what connections).
  • #18
Information technology's a Wink update so you have to connect your unit to your PC with a midi interface and they electronic mail y'all a utility to download. There were some glitches doing mine so they are exchanging units. If you are in the U.s.a. I remember they would prefer y'all send yours in and they update information technology.
Scoeb City
  • #nineteen
did you lot get the new unit? is it working properly now??
Cap'nMayhem
  • #xx
It's a Flash update then you accept to connect your unit to your PC with a midi interface and they email you a utility to download. There were some glitches doing mine so they are exchanging units. If yous are in the The states I recollect they would prefer you send yours in and they update it.

did you get the new unit? is it working properly now??

I was curious as to how everything went equally well.
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